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Bernard dogs near Casper were legal

Down at my garden center, we're all getting antsy for the new growing season. We've ordered all of our annuals, perennial flowers, tWestern Exposure: ShoshoniThe right words: Legislature's reading clerks keep lawmakers on trackWinter recreation business increasing with new snowsFederal land grab, management getting more pushback in WyomingLack Gold Glitter Love Me 100mm of ice impedes efforts to pluck homely, invasive fish from reservoir on Wyoming Utah lineSnare traps that killed three St. Bernard dogs belonging to the same Casper family were legal, according to the Wyoming Game and Fish Department.

"The traps were set in accordance with all the Wyoming laws and regulations, including the trap locations and size of snares," said Brian Olsen, Casper Region Wildlife Supervisor at the Wyoming Game and Fish Department. "The identification on each trap, that was there. There (were) breakaway devices on the snares, and the snares were anchored properly so."

The traps were set on the south side of Casper at the Black Patent Leather Love Me 120mm base of Casper Mountain.

The incident began when the Cardenas family's 4 year old dog Brooklyn went missing last Saturday. The family Nude Patent Leather Love Me 100mm posted on social media and put signs around town with no luck.

On Tuesday, Cardenas children Savannah, 20, and Braylon, 18, searched for Brooklyn in the pastures near their home with their two other St. Bernard dogs, 2 year olds Jax and Barkley. While searching, Barkley ran off and got trapped in a snare, and soon after, Jax was also trapped about 10 Nude Patent Leather Love Me 120mm feet away.

Both snares wound tight around the dogs' necks, killing both in front of the children. When a neighbor came to help, they found Brooklyn not far away, also caught and dead in a snare.

"It's just one of those circumstances where you can't blame anybody," Olsen said. "It's just a very unfortunate circumstance where three dogs are actually caught in snares and perished. It's a very, very sad story."

The Cardenas family could not be reached for this story, but Jamie Hazelton, the sister of Ashley Cardenas (the mother), spoke. She explained that the family was devastated but wanted to make sure people understood the dangers of being unaware about snares on public lands.

"(The family had) been walking their dogs out on that same land for the last four years. They're worried about predators like snakes, coyotes and badgers," Hazelton said. "This was just one thing they weren't aware of being back there. Had they been aware, they would have been prepared, been more careful."

There are no rules mandating signs in areas that are being trapped. It is a very regulated hunting method, with specified traps you can or cannot use, and areas open or closed to trapping. Winter is the most active season for the devices, since fur from caught predators is most valuable.

In his time in Casper, Olsen has seen situations where dogs are trapped and killed in snares, but never a story like this. He's met with the owner of the snares, saying he was "extremely devastated."

"Just being aware that (snare trapping) could be going on is probably the biggest thing that could come out of this," Olsen said. "Just knowing that trapping can occur on just about any public land in the state of Wyoming. It's just an awareness of it."

"People who are hiking back up there (with their dogs) should take a heavy duty pair of wire cutters, just in case," Hazelton said.

Public land should be safe and enjoyable for everyone to use, not just a minority of people who think trapping in a high traffic area is a good idea. This trapper had no business setting snares in this area. Even a dog on a long leash could easily get caught in one of these snares, so the argument that its all the owners fault is bull. Without wire cutters, an owner has no recourse but to watch their pet die. Snares are cheap, easily lost, and inhumane. At just a couple bucks a piece, its easy for an indiviudal to put out dozens of these devices and just as easy for them to forget where they put them all. I personally have found many abandoned snares while out hiking and hunting. They sit out there until something has the misfortune of walking into them, which all too often ends up being non targe wildlife or pets. Snares really should be outlawed. At least a leg hold trap can be removed and a non target animal might stand a chance of living. Like many other things wildlife related, trapping has become a greedy, commercial enterprise. Most furs end up in markets in China or Russia, and its a shame we are marketing Wyoming's wildlife in such a way. While there are ethical trappers (at least as ethical as this hobby can be) out there, they are few and far between. No one is making a living trapping, and the tired rhetoric that ranchers will go out of business if every coyote or fox in the state isn't killed is a load of you know what. If a rancher wants to trap on their own land that's their perogative, but setting snares on public land where they get to graze pratically for free is not fair to other users. Public lands are for everyone, not just the ag industry. If they are worried about coyotes eating lambs and calves, then perhaps they should think about where they leave them when they are small and vulnerable. Better yet, maybe they should go back to the old days and have someone stay out with the heards 24/7.

And again to go back to the law the law states animals must be on a leash or under voice command neither of which were being followed by the dog owners put the blame where it lies. I do not believe you should encourage the destruction other people's property. I am also quite disgusted that pet owners seem to think because it is state land which is all of ours that they can use it as a public toilet for their animals. People need to be responsible pet owners and take a doggy bag and a pooper scooper with them whenever visiting public lands I do not appreciate stepping in dog feces and watching the plants died from dogs urination. I also think it's stinks literally.

JJO I don't have to have my dogs on a leash I live out in the country with my own acreage. I am talking about these people that live next to state land public land. Why are idiots like this trapper not thinking about children and animals only about killing a freaking coyote for the sole purpose of killing. So if I were these people that live up there destroy these traps then maybe these so called trappers will move them. else where out of harms way. If its public land then it not your property Right. JJo

I am also curious as to why is someone trapping on public land, Its not like its your own property, This is land for everyone so why trap there, Just to be able to kill a predator that is not even harming anyone, obviously its not ranching land, some people just love the thrill of killing animals, pretty sick really. To you trappers buy your own land. and trap all you want. we live in the country we have all kinds of predators, don't kill them but could if we had the mind set to kill everything in site.

Commenter "Reload" : right "legal but not ethical. very poor judgment." Adjacent to a residential area like this, precautions should be required, and often are required by City Ordinance. Certain types of trapping and bowhunting can sometimes be done safely for people and pets inside city limits using selective, non lethal methods as long as residents are fully informed and protected. But only as necessary. Lethal recreational trapping in city limits without precautions or notification? Ridiculous. Negligent. There can be recourse in civil law.

Trapping Ethics: avoid locations and methods of trapping that could endanger people or their pets. Keep landowners and neighbors well informed of your operations. Check your traps daily. Don't sell the meat, but go ahead and sell the fur. Don't waste the meat unless it's a furbearer. If you harm other animals unintentionally; oh well, that's going to happen and we won't hold it against you (speaking only of criminal law).

Yes, trapping is legal in Wyoming. This is a horrific incident showing the lack of public awareness on this issue. Traps can be placed anywhere on 85% of our public lands, including on trails. The only setback is 30 feet off designated public roads for snares and conibears. Predator trappers are not required to get a license. Trap sizes are unlimited. Trap check times for the snares in this incident can be up to 13 days! For legholds, up to 72 hours. If your companion animal is caught in a trap, the trapper is not responsible for injuries to your dog, or to you. Traps are indiscriminate, and studies show that more non target animals are caught than target animals. G is not required to record pet trapping incidents, so there is not history of the numbers of pets trapped in our state. There is no requirement for signage warning of traps on popular hiking trails. Wyoming Untrapped, a newly formed non profit is dedicated to creating a safe and humane environment for people, pets and wildlife by education and trapping regulation reform. Our website is a trapping resource, including videos, How to Release Your Pet From a Trap. Know what to do if you pet is caught in one of these traps,,it could save you dog's life! Wyoming Untrapped also offers Trap Pet Release Workshops to demonstrate how to release all traps. To save your dog's life on public lands covered with traps, it's important that pets are kept on a leash or under voice command at all times. However, traps can be located right on public hiking trails. Carry a wire cutters when hiking. Let's begin the conversation: How do we prevent this tragedy in the future?We provide this community forum for readers to exchange ideas and opinions on the news of the day. Passionate views, pointed criticism and critical thinking are welcome. Name calling, crude language and personal abuse are not welcome. Moderators will monitor comments with an eye toward maintaining a high level of civility in this forum. Our comment policy explains the rules of the road for registered commenters.

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